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My name is Annabel Ruffell and I am the founder of Journey for Earth, a global awareness company committed to inspiring change for humanity, the environment and animals, one choice at a time.

I am honored to have interviewed Jim and Jamie Dutcher, who for more than 20 years have focused their lives on the study and documentation of wolf behaviour. In the 1990’s they both spent six years in a tented camp living with and filming wolves, called The Sawtooth Pack…and they both have won three Emmys, for their three films about them.



1)    What Journey are You on?

We didn’t look for this path that we are now traveling on, it was more a matter of conscience, of knowing we had the ability to make change and feeling that it was a course or journey that could not be ignored.

Our wolf project, learning and living with the Sawtooth Pack- These wolves gave us so very much that at the end of the project we felt that we had to give back to them (wolves). We were asked to move on to various other film subjects, but we always came back to wolves.  Reintroduction had just started, there was so much myth and misconception, wolves needed a voice. We started our educational outreach based non-profit, Living with Wolves, and became that voice, and we will continue to be that voice for as long as wolves need us.

2)    What has been one of your greatest challenges over the years, either with the work that you do on in another area of your life, and how did you overcome it?

One of our greatest challenges has been dealing with the fact, that while we fight for the acceptance of wolves living on our nations wild places, that until this is a reality, we have to deal with the incredible amount of misguided hatred and fear of wolves which lead to the spread of old and now new myths. In turn, this sets the stage for many to kill wolves through anger. It is that misplaced anger that is the most challenging to deal with.

3)    What is your greatest hope for our planet at this time?

Our hope is that it’s not too late, that people will come to realize how important wolves are to healthy ecosystems, how allowing wolves to thrive is not only good for wolves, but for the entire ecosystem and for our own humanity as well. If we cannot learn to live with wolves then we don’t see much hope for our own species. Accepting a top keystone carnivore, which is at the very least as social, compassionate and caring as elephants, whales, dolphin and the great apes. Wolves are the mother of all dogs, we walked side by side down the evolutionary road together creating the dog influencing each others evolution, dogs allowed us to become pastoral and agricultural, we are forever intertwined and we have wolves to thank for that.


To hear more about Jim and Jamie’s amazing work watch our interview below.


What Journey are YOU on?